Russia’s space agency severs ties with the U.S. and its European partners

RE MA IN VE RY FA R AP AR T IN TH E REMAIN VERY FAR APART IN THE REMAIN VERY FAR APART IN THE FU ND AM EN TA LS OF TH E CO NF LI CT , I FUNDAMENTALS OF THE CONFLICT, I FUNDAMENTALS OF THE CONFLICT, I DO TH IN K TH ER E IS VA LU E WI TH DO THINK THERE IS VALUE WITH DO THINK THERE IS VALUE WITH TH EM C ON TI NU IN G TO TA LK . THEM CONTINUING TO TALK. THEM CONTINUING TO TALK. >> MI SS Y RY AN , TH AN K YO U. >> MISSY RYAN, THANK YOU. >> MISSY RYAN, THANK YOU. >> RU SS IA ‘S SP AC E AG EN CY HA S >>> RUSSIA’S SPACE AGENCY HAS >>> RUSSIA’S SPACE AGENCY HAS SE VE RE D TI ES W IT H TH E U. S. A ND SEVERED TIES WITH THE U.S. AND SEVERED TIES WITH THE U.S. AND EU RO PE AN PA RT NE RS . EUROPEAN PARTNERS. EUROPEAN PARTNERS. NA SA S AY S TH E IN TE RN AT IO NA L NASA SAYS THE INTERNATIONAL NASA SAYS THE INTERNATIONAL SP AC E ST AT IO N IS ST IL L SPACE STATION IS STILL SPACE STATION IS STILL OP ER AT IN G AT NE AR NO RM AL OPERATING AT NEAR NORMAL OPERATING AT NEAR NORMAL FA SH IO N. FASHION. FASHION. TH E AG EN CY SA YS IT IS NO T CL EA R THE AGENCY SAYS IT IS NOT CLEAR THE AGENCY SAYS IT IS NOT CLEAR IF OR WH EN TH AT MA Y CH AN GE . IF OR WHEN THAT MAY CHANGE. IF OR WHEN THAT MAY CHANGE. TH E RU SS IA NS A LS O CU T OF F SA LE S THE RUSSIANS ALSO CUT OFF SALES THE RUSSIANS ALSO CUT OFF SALES AN D SU PP OR T FO R RU SS IA N RO CK ET AND SUPPORT FOR RUSSIAN ROCKET AND SUPPORT FOR RUSSIAN ROCKET EN GI NE S IN U. S. SP AC EC RA FT S. ENGINES IN U.S. SPACECRAFTS. ENGINES IN U.S. SPACECRAFTS. MO SC OW E ND ED LA UN CH OP ER AT IO NS MOSCOW ENDED LAUNCH OPERATIONS MOSCOW ENDED LAUNCH OPERATIONS ON TH E EU RO EA N SP AC E AG EN CY ON THE EUROEAN SPACE AGENCY ON THE EUROEAN SPACE AGENCY LA UN CH SI TE N EX T WE EK . LAUNCH SITE NEXT WEEK. LAUNCH SITE NEXT WEEK. WI TH M OR E ON TH IS , I WA NT TO WITH MORE ON THIS, I WANT TO WITH MORE ON THIS, I WANT TO BR IN G IN SE NI OR SP AC E AN AL YS T, BRING IN SENIOR SPACE ANALYST, BRING IN SENIOR SPACE ANALYST, BI LL HA RW OO D. BILL HARWOOD. BILL HARWOOD. BI LL , I RE ME MB ER WH EN TH E BILL, I REMEMBER WHEN THE BILL, I REMEMBER WHEN THE SH UT TL E PR OG RA M EN DE D IN 20 11 . SHUTTLE PROGRAM ENDED IN 2011. SHUTTLE PROGRAM ENDED IN 2011. I WA S TH ER E FO R TH E LA ST I WAS THERE FOR THE LAST I WAS THERE FOR THE LAST SH UT TL E LA UN CH . SHUTTLE LAUNCH. SHUTTLE LAUNCH. TH E CO NV ER SA TI ON WA S AB OU T HO W THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT HOW THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT HOW IN CR ED IB LE IT WA S TH AT FR OM TH E INCREDIBLE IT WAS THAT FROM THE INCREDIBLE IT WAS THAT FROM THE SP AC E RA CE NO W AM ER IC AN SPACE RACE NOW AMERICAN SPACE RACE NOW AMERICAN AS TR ON AU TS W OU LD GO TO TH E ASTRONAUTS WOULD GO TO THE ASTRONAUTS WOULD GO TO THE IN TE RN AT IO NA L SP AC E ST AT IO N IN INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION IN INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION IN RU SS IA N RO CK ET S, AN D NO W, WE RUSSIAN ROCKETS, AND NOW, WE RUSSIAN ROCKETS, AND NOW, WE HE AR TH AT TH IS IS AL L IN FL UX HEAR THAT THIS IS ALL IN FLUX HEAR THAT THIS IS ALL IN FLUX WI TH T HE SP AC E ST AT IO N WITH THE SPACE STATION WITH THE SPACE STATION OB VI OU SL Y BE IN G ON E OF TH E MO ST OBVIOUSLY BEING ONE OF THE MOST OBVIOUSLY BEING ONE OF THE MOST VI SI BL E SI GN S OF U. S. RU SS IA N VISIBLE SIGNS OF U.S. RUSSIAN VISIBLE SIGNS OF U.S. RUSSIAN CO OP ER AT IO N, CO SM ON AU TS AN D COOPERATION, COSMONAUTS AND COOPERATION, COSMONAUTS AND OT HE RS WO RK IN G TO GE TH ER IN OTHERS WORKING TOGETHER IN OTHERS WORKING TOGETHER IN OR BI T FO R MO RE TH AN 20 YE AR S, ORBIT FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, ORBIT FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, CA N EI TH ER SI DE OP ER AT E TH E CAN EITHER SIDE OPERATE THE CAN EITHER SIDE OPERATE THE ST AT IO N ON IT S OW N, AN D HO W BA D STATION ON ITS OWN, AND HOW BAD STATION ON ITS OWN, AND HOW BAD IS TH E SI TU AT IO N? IS THE SITUATION? IS THE SITUATION? >> Re po rt er : GO OD AF TE RN OO N, >> Reporter: GOOD AFTERNOON, >> Reporter: GOOD AFTERNOON, LA NA . LANA. LANA. IT I S VE RY BA D. IT IS VERY BAD. IT IS VERY BAD. I’ M NO T SU RE I HA VE EV ER SE EN I’M NOT SURE I HAVE EVER SEEN I’M NOT SURE I HAVE EVER SEEN IT TH IS RO CK Y SE NS E TH E PR OG RA M IT THIS ROCKY SENSE THE PROGRAM IT THIS ROCKY SENSE THE PROGRAM GO T GO IN G IN TH E 90 s. GOT GOING IN THE 90s. GOT GOING IN THE 90s. AS YO U PO IN T OU T, TH E AS YOU POINT OUT, THE AS YOU POINT OUT, THE CO OP ER AT IO N HA S BE EN TH E COOPERATION HAS BEEN THE COOPERATION HAS BEEN THE DE FI NI NG F AC TO R. DEFINING FACTOR. DEFINING FACTOR. IT I S AN IN TE RN AT IO NA L SP AC E IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL SPACE IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL SPACE ST AT IO N. STATION. STATION. RU SS IA NS HE LP ED NA SA OU T WH EN RUSSIANS HELPED NASA OUT WHEN RUSSIANS HELPED NASA OUT WHEN TH E CO LU MB IA W EN T DO WN , KE EP IN G THE COLUMBIA WENT DOWN, KEEPING THE COLUMBIA WENT DOWN, KEEPING AS TR ON AU TS AB OA RD T HE ST AT IO N ASTRONAUTS ABOARD THE STATION ASTRONAUTS ABOARD THE STATION WH IL E NA SA R EC OV ER ED FR OM TH E WHILE NASA RECOVERED FROM THE WHILE NASA RECOVERED FROM THE DI SA ST ER . DISASTER. DISASTER. TH EN TH EY SO LD SE AT S TO NA SA TO THEN THEY SOLD SEATS TO NASA TO THEN THEY SOLD SEATS TO NASA TO CA RR Y AS TR ON AU TS UP AF TE R TH E CARRY ASTRONAUTS UP AFTER THE CARRY ASTRONAUTS UP AFTER THE SH UT TL E PR OG RA M EN DE D. SHUTTLE PROGRAM ENDED. SHUTTLE PROGRAM ENDED. IN TH AT SE NS E, RU SS IA HA S IN THAT SENSE, RUSSIA HAS IN THAT SENSE, RUSSIA HAS HE AP ED TH E ST AT IO N AL IV E WH EN HEAPED THE STATION ALIVE WHEN HEAPED THE STATION ALIVE WHEN NA SA WA S UN AB LE TO DO TH AT . NASA WAS UNABLE TO DO THAT. NASA WAS UNABLE TO DO THAT. ON TH E OT HE R HA ND , NA SA PA ID ON THE OTHER HAND, NASA PAID ON THE OTHER HAND, NASA PAID RU SS EL L SO ME TH IN G LI KE $4 RUSSELL SOMETHING LIKE $4 RUSSELL SOMETHING LIKE $4 BI LL IO N FO R TH E TI CK ET S. BILLION FOR THE TICKETS. BILLION FOR THE TICKETS. SO RU SS IA ‘S GO D HA RD CU RR EN CY SO RUSSIA’S GOD HARD CURRENCY SO RUSSIA’S GOD HARD CURRENCY FO R TH E PR OG RA M. FOR THE PROGRAM. FOR THE PROGRAM. TH EY DE FI NI TE LY NE ED ED IT . THEY DEFINITELY NEEDED IT. THEY DEFINITELY NEEDED IT. TO G ET TO YO UR QU ES TI ON , TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION, TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION, RU SS IA NS PR OV ID E PR OP UL SI ON FO R RUSSIANS PROVIDE PROPULSION FOR RUSSIANS PROVIDE PROPULSION FOR TH E IN TE RN AT IO NA L SP AC E THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE ST AT IO N. STATION. STATION. YO U TH IN K AB OU T IT BE IN G IN A YOU THINK ABOUT IT BEING IN A YOU THINK ABOUT IT BEING IN A VA CU UM . VACUUM. VACUUM. IT I S TH E EX TR EM E UP PE R IT IS THE EXTREME UPPER IT IS THE EXTREME UPPER AT MO SP HE RE . ATMOSPHERE. ATMOSPHERE. OV ER TI ME , TH E OR BI T DE CA YS . OVER TIME, THE ORBIT DECAYS. OVER TIME, THE ORBIT DECAYS. IT CO ME S DO WN LO WE R AN D LO WE R. IT COMES DOWN LOWER AND LOWER. IT COMES DOWN LOWER AND LOWER. TH E RU SS IA NS SU PP LY TH AT . THE RUSSIANS SUPPLY THAT. THE RUSSIANS SUPPLY THAT. NA SA ON TH E OT HE R HA ND SU PP LI ES NASA ON THE OTHER HAND SUPPLIES NASA ON THE OTHER HAND SUPPLIES US AB LE EL EC TR IC IT Y ON TH E SP AC E USABLE ELECTRICITY ON THE SPACE USABLE ELECTRICITY ON THE SPACE ST AT IO N, GI VI NG TH AT TO TH E STATION, GIVING THAT TO THE STATION, GIVING THAT TO THE RU SS IA NS A S WE LL . RUSSIANS AS WELL. RUSSIANS AS WELL. TH EY H AV E GY RO SC OP ES TH AT THEY HAVE GYROSCOPES THAT THEY HAVE GYROSCOPES THAT MA IN TA IN TH E OR IE NT AT IO N. MAINTAIN THE ORIENTATION. MAINTAIN THE ORIENTATION. NE IT HE R SI DE CA N OP ER AT E TH E NEITHER SIDE CAN OPERATE THE NEITHER SIDE CAN OPERATE THE SY ST EM S. SYSTEMS. SYSTEMS. TH EY BO TH HA VE TO BE TH ER E FO R THEY BOTH HAVE TO BE THERE FOR THEY BOTH HAVE TO BE THERE FOR TH E ST AT IO N TO CO NT IN UE IN IT S THE STATION TO CONTINUE IN ITS THE STATION TO CONTINUE IN ITS CU RR EN T FO RM . CURRENT FORM. CURRENT FORM. TH AT ‘S W HY AL L TH IS RH ET OR IC THAT’S WHY ALL THIS RHETORIC THAT’S WHY ALL THIS RHETORIC TH AT IS G OI NG ON RI GH T NO W IS THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS DI ST UR BI NG TO PE OP LE WH O AR E DISTURBING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE DISTURBING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FA NS O F TH E SP AC E ST AT IO N. FANS OF THE SPACE STATION. FANS OF THE SPACE STATION. >> NA SA HA S KE PT A LO W PR OF IL E >> NASA HAS KEPT A LOW PROFILE >> NASA HAS KEPT A LOW PROFILE IN AL L OF TH IS . IN ALL OF THIS. IN ALL OF THIS. TH EY MA DE FE W PU BL IC CO MM EN TS . THEY MADE FEW PUBLIC COMMENTS. THEY MADE FEW PUBLIC COMMENTS. IN CO NT RA ST , SP AC E CH IE F HA S IN CONTRAST, SPACE CHIEF HAS IN CONTRAST, SPACE CHIEF HAS PO ST ED A NO NS TO P SE RI ES OF POSTED A NONSTOP SERIES OF POSTED A NONSTOP SERIES OF HA RS HL Y CR IT IC AL TW EE TS , EV EN HARSHLY CRITICAL TWEETS, EVEN HARSHLY CRITICAL TWEETS, EVEN TH RE AT S. THREATS. THREATS. AR E YO U SU RP RI SE D BY TH E ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THE ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THE AP PR OA CH T HA T RU SS IA HA S TA KE N APPROACH THAT RUSSIA HAS TAKEN APPROACH THAT RUSSIA HAS TAKEN EV EN AS NA SA HA S BE EN QU IT E EVEN AS NASA HAS BEEN QUITE EVEN AS NASA HAS BEEN QUITE QU IE T? QUIET? QUIET? >> YE S AN D NO . >> YES AND NO. >> YES AND NO. TH E DI RE CT OR G EN ER AL , TH E THE DIRECTOR GENERAL, THE THE DIRECTOR GENERAL, THE EQ UI VA LE NT OF NA SA OV ER TH ER E, EQUIVALENT OF NASA OVER THERE, EQUIVALENT OF NASA OVER THERE, HE H AS MA DE BO MB AS TI C RE MA RK S HE HAS MADE BOMBASTIC REMARKS HE HAS MADE BOMBASTIC REMARKS IN TH E PA ST . IN THE PAST. IN THE PAST. PE OP LE TE ND TO — IT IS SO RT OF PEOPLE TEND TO — IT IS SORT OF PEOPLE TEND TO — IT IS SORT OF TH E NA TU RE OF TH E WA Y HE THE NATURE OF THE WAY HE THE NATURE OF THE WAY HE CO MM UN IC AT ES . COMMUNICATES. COMMUNICATES. TH IS I S DI FF ER EN T. THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS DIFFERENT. HE IS JO KI NG AB OU T NU CL EA R HE IS JOKING ABOUT NUCLEAR HE IS JOKING ABOUT NUCLEAR WE AP ON S. WEAPONS. WEAPONS. HE I S JO KI NG AB OU T LE AV IN G TH E HE IS JOKING ABOUT LEAVING THE HE IS JOKING ABOUT LEAVING THE IN TE RN AT IO NA L SP AC E ST AT IO N. INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION. INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION. YO U CA N’ T CA LL TH EM JO KE S IN YOU CAN’T CALL THEM JOKES IN YOU CAN’T CALL THEM JOKES IN TH E CO NT EX T OF TH E IN VA SI ON OF THE CONTEXT OF THE INVASION OF THE CONTEXT OF THE INVASION OF UK RA IN E. UKRAINE. UKRAINE. IT IS D EF IN IT EL Y AL AR MI NG . IT IS DEFINITELY ALARMING. IT IS DEFINITELY ALARMING. NO T SU RE WH AT TH IS IS GO IN G TO NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO CO ME TO , BU T NA SA HA S BE EN COME TO, BUT NASA HAS BEEN COME TO, BUT NASA HAS BEEN TR YI NG T O PL AY IT VE RY CA LM LY . TRYING TO PLAY IT VERY CALMLY. TRYING TO PLAY IT VERY CALMLY. TH EY WA NT TO CO NT IN UE ST AT IO N THEY WANT TO CONTINUE STATION THEY WANT TO CONTINUE STATION OP ER AT IO NS . OPERATIONS. OPERATIONS. TH E RU SS IA NS HA VE A FL IG HT THE RUSSIANS HAVE A FLIGHT THE RUSSIANS HAVE A FLIGHT CO MI NG U P. COMING UP. COMING UP. TH EY WA NT TH AT TO CO NT IN UE . THEY WANT THAT TO CONTINUE. THEY WANT THAT TO CONTINUE. HO W TH IS IS GO IN G TO WO RK IN A HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK IN A HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK IN A CO OP ER AT IV E VE NT UR E WI TH TH E COOPERATIVE VENTURE WITH THE COOPERATIVE VENTURE WITH THE TA LK TH AT IS GO IN G ON RI GH T TALK THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT TALK THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NO W, A ND AL L TH E SA NC TI ON S YO U NOW, AND ALL THE SANCTIONS YOU NOW, AND ALL THE SANCTIONS YOU ME NT IO NE D AT TH E VE RY TO P, HU GE MENTIONED AT THE VERY TOP, HUGE MENTIONED AT THE VERY TOP, HUGE QU ES TI ON MA RK S. QUESTION MARKS. QUESTION MARKS. >> BI LL , OU R VI EW ER S JU ST SA W A >> BILL, OUR VIEWERS JUST SAW A >> BILL, OUR VIEWERS JUST SAW A TW EE T BY EL ON MU SK . TWEET BY ELON MUSK. TWEET BY ELON MUSK. OB VI OU SL Y, WE SP EN T A LO T OF OBVIOUSLY, WE SPENT A LOT OF OBVIOUSLY, WE SPENT A LOT OF TI ME TA LK IN G AB OU T HI S IM PA CT TIME TALKING ABOUT HIS IMPACT TIME TALKING ABOUT HIS IMPACT ON SP AC E. ON SPACE. ON SPACE. TH AT IS GE TT IN G A LO T OF THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF CO NV ER SA TI ON W IT HI N TH E CONVERSATION WITHIN THE CONVERSATION WITHIN THE CI RC LE S. CIRCLES. CIRCLES. EX PL AI N HI S AM ER IC AN BO OM ST IC K EXPLAIN HIS AMERICAN BOOM STICK EXPLAIN HIS AMERICAN BOOM STICK CO MM EN T AN D WH Y TH AT IS PL AY IN G COMMENT AND WHY THAT IS PLAYING COMMENT AND WHY THAT IS PLAYING IN TO TH IS CU RR EN T SI TU AT IO N. INTO THIS CURRENT SITUATION. INTO THIS CURRENT SITUATION. >> Re po rt er : WE LL , WH AT DI MI TR I >> Reporter: WELL, WHAT DIMITRI >> Reporter: WELL, WHAT DIMITRI WA S RE FE RR IN G TO , WH EN TH E WAS REFERRING TO, WHEN THE WAS REFERRING TO, WHEN THE SU BT LE P RO GR AM , AS YO U SA ID , SUBTLE PROGRAM, AS YOU SAID, SUBTLE PROGRAM, AS YOU SAID, TH E RU SS IA NS AN D SP AC EC RA FT S THE RUSSIANS AND SPACECRAFTS THE RUSSIANS AND SPACECRAFTS WI TH A ME RI CA NS ON LY TI CK ET TO WITH AMERICANS ONLY TICKET TO WITH AMERICANS ONLY TICKET TO SP AC E. SPACE. SPACE. WE HA VE TA LK ED AB OU T TH AT IN WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN TH E PA ST HO W FA CI LI TI ES , TH E THE PAST HOW FACILITIES, THE THE PAST HOW FACILITIES, THE ST AT IO N AM AS SE S PA RT IC IP AT IO N. STATION AMASSES PARTICIPATION. STATION AMASSES PARTICIPATION. IT C OU LD ‘V E EN DE D. IT COULD’VE ENDED. IT COULD’VE ENDED. WH AT HA S CH AN GE D NO W IS SP AC E WHAT HAS CHANGED NOW IS SPACE WHAT HAS CHANGED NOW IS SPACE EX. EX. EX. TH EY A RE LA UN CH IN G AS TR ON AU TS THEY ARE LAUNCHING ASTRONAUTS THEY ARE LAUNCHING ASTRONAUTS ON TH E CR EW D RA GO N CA PS UL E. ON THE CREW DRAGON CAPSULE. ON THE CREW DRAGON CAPSULE. NA SA I S NO T DE PE ND EN T ON RU SS IA NASA IS NOT DEPENDENT ON RUSSIA NASA IS NOT DEPENDENT ON RUSSIA AN YM OR E FO R TR AN SP OR TA TI ON TO ANYMORE FOR TRANSPORTATION TO ANYMORE FOR TRANSPORTATION TO TH E SP AC E ST AT IO N. THE SPACE STATION. THE SPACE STATION. AN D TH EY MA DE A SA RC AS TI C TW EE T AND THEY MADE A SARCASTIC TWEET AND THEY MADE A SARCASTIC TWEET LA ST W EE K TA LK IN G AB OU T HO W , LAST WEEK TALKING ABOUT HOW, LAST WEEK TALKING ABOUT HOW, HO W AR E AM ER IC AN S GO IN G TO DO HOW ARE AMERICANS GOING TO DO HOW ARE AMERICANS GOING TO DO TH IS O N BR OO MS TI CK S? THIS ON BROOMSTICKS? THIS ON BROOMSTICKS? WE AR E SH OW IN G TH E SP AC E X WE ARE SHOWING THE SPACE X WE ARE SHOWING THE SPACE X LO GO . LOGO. LOGO. HE S AI D, AM ER IC AN BR OO MS TI CK S. HE SAID, AMERICAN BROOMSTICKS. HE SAID, AMERICAN BROOMSTICKS. WH AT HE ME AN S IS , TH E DR AG ON WHAT HE MEANS IS, THE DRAGON WHAT HE MEANS IS, THE DRAGON CA PS UL ES MI GH T BE AB LE TO NO T CAPSULES MIGHT BE ABLE TO NOT CAPSULES MIGHT BE ABLE TO NOT ON LY CA RR Y AS TR ON AU TS . ONLY CARRY ASTRONAUTS. ONLY CARRY ASTRONAUTS. TH EY MA Y BE AB LE TO PR OV ID E RE – THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE RE- THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE RE- BO OS T CA PA BI LI TY TO MA KE UP FO R BOOST CAPABILITY TO MAKE UP FOR BOOST CAPABILITY TO MAKE UP FOR TH E RU SS IA NS IF TH E RU SS IA NS THE RUSSIANS IF THE RUSSIANS THE RUSSIANS IF THE RUSSIANS FO R WH AT EV ER R EA SO N PU LL OU T OF FOR WHATEVER REASON PULL OUT OF FOR WHATEVER REASON PULL OUT OF TH IS . THIS. THIS. EV ER YB OD Y IS HO PI NG IT WO N’ T EVERYBODY IS HOPING IT WON’T EVERYBODY IS HOPING IT WON’T CO ME T O TH AT . COME TO THAT. COME TO THAT. IT IS HA RD TO SE E HO W IT IT IS HARD TO SEE HOW IT IT IS HARD TO SEE HOW IT PR OC EE DS N OR MA LL Y AT TH IS PROCEEDS NORMALLY AT THIS PROCEEDS NORMALLY AT THIS PO IN T. POINT. POINT. >> OB VI OU SL Y, YO U TH IN K AB OU T >> OBVIOUSLY, YOU THINK ABOUT >> OBVIOUSLY, YOU THINK ABOUT TH E PO SS IB IL IT Y TH AT AL L TH ES E THE POSSIBILITY THAT ALL THESE THE POSSIBILITY THAT ALL THESE DI FF ER EN T IN NO VA TO RS F OR DIFFERENT INNOVATORS FOR DIFFERENT INNOVATORS FOR CO MM ER CI AL SP AC E MI GH T BE AB LE COMMERCIAL SPACE MIGHT BE ABLE COMMERCIAL SPACE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SU PP LA NT TH ES E CA PS UL ES TO SUPPLANT THESE CAPSULES TO SUPPLANT THESE CAPSULES GE TT IN G AS TR ON AU TS U P TO TH E GETTING ASTRONAUTS UP TO THE GETTING ASTRONAUTS UP TO THE SP AC E ST AT IO N. SPACE STATION. SPACE STATION. BU T I WA S TH IN KI NG TH EY BUT I WAS THINKING THEY BUT I WAS THINKING THEY CO UL DN ‘T OP ER AT E TH E TH RU ST ER S COULDN’T OPERATE THE THRUSTERS COULDN’T OPERATE THE THRUSTERS OR OT HE R PA RT S OF TH E IS S TH AT OR OTHER PARTS OF THE ISS THAT OR OTHER PARTS OF THE ISS THAT AR E RU SS IA N CO NT RO L. ARE RUSSIAN CONTROL. ARE RUSSIAN CONTROL. I’ M WO ND ER IN G TW O TH IN GS . I’M WONDERING TWO THINGS. I’M WONDERING TWO THINGS. IS TH ER E A CH AN CE TH AT ON E OR IS THERE A CHANCE THAT ONE OR IS THERE A CHANCE THAT ONE OR BO TH SI DE S MI GH T PU LL OU T OF BOTH SIDES MIGHT PULL OUT OF BOTH SIDES MIGHT PULL OUT OF TH IS PR OJ EC T? THIS PROJECT? THIS PROJECT? I SH OU LD NO TE TH AT TH ER E AR E 15 I SHOULD NOTE THAT THERE ARE 15 I SHOULD NOTE THAT THERE ARE 15 CO UN TR IE S IN VO LV ED . COUNTRIES INVOLVED. COUNTRIES INVOLVED. TH E UN IT ED ST AT ES IS PR OM IN EN T THE UNITED STATES IS PROMINENT THE UNITED STATES IS PROMINENT AM ON G TH EM . AMONG THEM. AMONG THEM. IF RU SS IA WE RE TO PU LL OU T IT S IF RUSSIA WERE TO PULL OUT ITS IF RUSSIA WERE TO PULL OUT ITS CO SM ON AU TS , IS TH ER E A CH AN CE COSMONAUTS, IS THERE A CHANCE COSMONAUTS, IS THERE A CHANCE OT HE R AM ER IC AN CO MP AN IE S MI GH T OTHER AMERICAN COMPANIES MIGHT OTHER AMERICAN COMPANIES MIGHT BE AB LE TO OP ER AT E TH E IS S WI TH BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE ISS WITH BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE ISS WITH OT HE R PA RT NE R CO MP AN IE S WI TH OU T OTHER PARTNER COMPANIES WITHOUT OTHER PARTNER COMPANIES WITHOUT RU SS IA ? RUSSIA? RUSSIA? I’ M SO RR Y, OT HE R PA RT NE R I’M SORRY, OTHER PARTNER I’M SORRY, OTHER PARTNER CO UN TR IE S — COUNTRIES — COUNTRIES — >> RI GH T, RI GH T, IT ‘S NO T A >> RIGHT, RIGHT, IT’S NOT A >> RIGHT, RIGHT, IT’S NOT A PR IV AT E EN DE AV OR W HE N IT CO ME S PRIVATE ENDEAVOR WHEN IT COMES PRIVATE ENDEAVOR WHEN IT COMES TO S PA CE ST AT IO NS . TO SPACE STATIONS. TO SPACE STATIONS. NA SA PA YS F OR IT . NASA PAYS FOR IT. NASA PAYS FOR IT. IT ‘S A LL PA RT OF TH E NA SA IT’S ALL PART OF THE NASA IT’S ALL PART OF THE NASA PR OG RA M. PROGRAM. PROGRAM. IT ‘S A N OP EN QU ES TI ON . IT’S AN OPEN QUESTION. IT’S AN OPEN QUESTION. CO UL D NA SA SU PP OR T TH E ST AT IO N COULD NASA SUPPORT THE STATION COULD NASA SUPPORT THE STATION AN D KE EP IT IN OR BI T WI TH OU T AND KEEP IT IN ORBIT WITHOUT AND KEEP IT IN ORBIT WITHOUT TH E RU SS IA NS ? THE RUSSIANS? THE RUSSIANS? TH E RU SS IA NS HA VE BA NN ED TA LK THE RUSSIANS HAVE BANNED TALK THE RUSSIANS HAVE BANNED TALK AB OU T PU LL IN G MO DU LE S OF F TH E ABOUT PULLING MODULES OFF THE ABOUT PULLING MODULES OFF THE SP AC E ST AT IO N AN D OP ER AT IN G SPACE STATION AND OPERATING SPACE STATION AND OPERATING TH EM AS A SE PA RA TE RU SS IA N THEM AS A SEPARATE RUSSIAN THEM AS A SEPARATE RUSSIAN SP AC E ST AT IO N. SPACE STATION. SPACE STATION. NO W TH AT MA Y BE PO SS IB LE IF IT NOW THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE IF IT NOW THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE IF IT CA ME T O TH AT IT WO UL D BE A CAME TO THAT IT WOULD BE A CAME TO THAT IT WOULD BE A DR AS TI C ST EP . WH ET HE R NA SA DRASTIC STEP. WHETHER NASA DRASTIC STEP. WHETHER NASA CO UL D KE EP PA RT OF TH E ST AT IO N COULD KEEP PART OF THE STATION COULD KEEP PART OF THE STATION OP ER AT IN G WI TH OU T TH E RU SS IA NS OPERATING WITHOUT THE RUSSIANS OPERATING WITHOUT THE RUSSIANS RE MA IN S TO BE SE EN . REMAINS TO BE SEEN. REMAINS TO BE SEEN. SO ME OF IT WO UL D DE PE ND ON HO W SOME OF IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW SOME OF IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW MU CH TI ME TH EY HA VE TO PR EP AR E MUCH TIME THEY HAVE TO PREPARE MUCH TIME THEY HAVE TO PREPARE AN D WH ET HE R OR NO T SP AC E X OR AND WHETHER OR NOT SPACE X OR AND WHETHER OR NOT SPACE X OR AN Y OT HE R CO UN TR IE S UN DE R TH E ANY OTHER COUNTRIES UNDER THE ANY OTHER COUNTRIES UNDER THE CA RG O SH IP FR OM NO RT HR OP CARGO SHIP FROM NORTHROP CARGO SHIP FROM NORTHROP GR UM MA N RI GH T NO W IS D ES IG NE D GRUMMAN RIGHT NOW IS DESIGNED GRUMMAN RIGHT NOW IS DESIGNED TO PR OV ID E A LI TT LE BI T OF RE – TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF RE- TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF RE- BO OS T. BOOST. BOOST. IT I S TH E FI RS T SI NC E TH E IT IS THE FIRST SINCE THE IT IS THE FIRST SINCE THE SH UT TL E ST